Rule #3: Do your homework before you buy the cue.
This rule helps you decide
which direction to take your cue collection. This is where you put Skills #1-#4
into effect. Determining a direction for your collection will be easier
if you can master these skills. Taking the time to do your homework
before attending a show or tournament may save you money and will allow you to invest
in cues that will complement you growing collection.
I know what it is like to see a cue and have to have it! The thought of
walking up to that first table in the cue show and buying a cue quickly is
exhilarating. I just know if I do not get it right then there will be
many more people coming in right behind me who will want that same cue.
The very first national tournament I ever went to if I remember correctly was
Johnston City in 1969. I paid my money, walked through the doors and entered The
Hustlers Jamboree. Every top player in the country was in the building.
Beautiful cues were in the hands of all these masters. Cues would be up for
sale in attempts to raise cash to gamble. Gordy Hart from Viking cues was there
also selling some of his cues of which I did make a purchase and still have to
this day. In the years to come I started to attend more tournaments which also
attracted cue makers and dealers.
Take your time, relax, and enjoy the moment. The worst enemy for a custom
cue collector is buyer’s remorse. This is the feeling you have within a
day or two (sometimes almost immediately after paying for the cue), that you
made a mistake. It is ok; every custom cue buyer out there has felt this
to some degree. I wish I could say I had not.
Truth be told, not one person involved in the selling of custom cues wants you
to ever feel buyer’s remorse. As each time this happens it takes away a
little from the enjoyment of custom cues. Those of us who sell custom cues
want you to be happy and enjoy each cue you buy. So, while at times, we
who stand on that seller’s side of the table may seem a little anxious.
Ultimately, we understand it is in everyone’s best interest that you take your
time and make what you feel is the right decision.
to understand. This will, hopefully, help you look past what many of us consider
the most important factor: price. I would say to you that price is not as
important as the cost. Some of you may be thinking. Isn’t price and cost
the same thing? The answer simply is no.
Price is what you are willing to pay for a product. Think about
this. How many times have you looked at a price tag and thought to yourself this is too expensive?
Is this really the case though, is this product too expensive?
Now let’s consider cost and look at an example. Cost is the hidden part
of price. Have you ever been offered an extended warranty?
Companies offer these because they know a percentage of their products are
going to break down. They are selling you insurance. They use the
money they get from those products that do not break down to cover the cost of
repairs or replacements of those products that do. Cost is the ultimate price
for that product. If you purchase a cue solely on price, you could pay
much more than the initial purchase price.
Example: You are offered what you feel is an excellent price on a
cue. The cue maker points out a few flaws and explains this is why he is
offering this cue at such a good price. In our excitement over the price
or just because you want the cue, you overlook the small flaws.
The following week you get together with a few friends and show them the
cue. One friend points out there is a little wobble in the shaft and the
other points out that there are large gaps between the inlays and butt
material. You defend your cue telling them that the cue maker pointed out
these flaws to you and you bought the cue because you got a greatly reduced
price.
Your friends give approval and one says, well, since you’re just going to beat
it up at your league play anyway, it doesn’t matter. However, the other
friend points out, that you could have gotten a beater cue for a lot less
money. Now they have done it, the light bulb comes on in your brain.
You admit to yourself that this cue was not bought as a beater. So, you
contact the cue maker and explain to him the problem. He agrees the cue
does have those faults, which is why he sold it at a reduced price.
You ask if you can send it back to have it fixed, he agrees. He quotes
you a fair price, you have to pay shipping both ways and because of his backlog,
it may be 6-8 weeks before he can get to it. You agree and send the cue
out the next day, along with the extra money for the project and return
shipping.
What this cue has now cost is the full retail price, shipping (both ways) and
additional 6-8 week wait for your cue. When you receive your cue back, it is as
it should be. Oddly enough, you are now anxious to sell or trade this cue.
With this in mind, you list the cue on the Internet and sell it at a slight
loss.
As we can see from this, the excellent price offered was an excellent price for
the quality of the work provided. Both parties understood that going
in. However, enlightenment can be a strange thing. The buyer, who
because of his level of enlightenment, knew the price was excellent.
However, that same level of enlightenment also made him unhappy with the
cue. Ultimately, the cost was substantially more than the price.
Buying the best cue you can afford, does not mean taking out a bank loan to buy
the greatest cue ever made. What I am advising is to consider your
purchases carefully. This is another reason why mastering Skills #1-#4
are so important. These skills will enable you to determine which cue is
best for you, given the money you have to spend.
Sometimes it is a better decision to take the money you were going to spend on
two cues and only purchase one. Possibly, you should forgo purchasing the
cue you want, to save up a little more money and purchase a cue of better
quality. When you are considering purchasing a cue, always employ Rule
#1. In addition to that, you should consider the short- and long-term
cost of each cue you buy.
Rule #5: The World Changes.
This is true with so many things in life, which includes the cues in your
collection. Enlightenment as we saw earlier can be a double-edged
sword. As you gain expertise in custom cues, you will begin to evaluate
your collection. Mistakes that were not seen before now start to surface.
Do not be too hard on yourself, all custom cue collectors go through this, I
know I did. However, this expertise is now helping you select
better-crafted cues.
Custom cues can also follow a cycle. There is the cycle, where stainless
steel joints seem to be more popular than wood or Implex joints. Within this
large cycle, smaller cycles can be found. These are referred to as
trends. Then there are even smaller cycles, which can be referred to as
fads. Fads generally produce the least desirable cues in the long
term. Cycles, trends and fads are not limited to just cues. They
are also found among woods, wrap material and inlays.
Trends and fads are caused by a combination of several things.
Billiard magazines having a cue on the cover or doing a specific article on a
cue, cues or cue maker will influence the custom cue buyer.
This is neither good nor bad. It is just something you need to be aware of as a
collector. Remember, one of the focuses of a billiard magazine is to give
exposure to many different cues and cue makers as possible. Billiard
magazines continue to influence the buyers months after they come out and, in
some cases, years. As the world changes within your collection, you will
review these magazines again and see cues that years before would not catch
your eye. Old cue styles resurface just like clothing in the fashion world. It
is these old styles that some collectors may only add to their collection.
The Internet. Because of the ability to disseminate information quickly,
the Internet has become a powerful factor in both trends and fads.
Magazines will take anywhere from 2-4 months from the time the cue is completed
until you see it in the magazine. With digital cameras, cue makers can
now have their cue on the Internet within minutes of completing it. This
allows collectors to see the latest works.
This starts, what can be a cue maker’s greatest asset on the Internet. The
buzz. It is called the buzz because so many people are talking about it
at once, it sounds like a buzz. The buzz can influence buyers to act
quicker than they normally would, creating a huge backlog of orders for the cue
maker. Of course, the buzz can work both ways. Should a cue maker
create a cue that does not live up to the hype, the results can be
devastating. Collectors need to pay attention to the buzz as it can have
a long-term affect on their collection.
Styles change, materials come in and out of style and the cue maker’s ability
to maintain their position in any given market will change. These factors
and others, previously discussed, will influence your collection in both a
positive and a negative way. It is up to you to follow the changing
markets and react accordingly. Remember, the world is in a constant
change.
In addition to quality work, another key is a cue maker’s willingness
to talk about their cues. I have found over the years that if a maker cannot
take the time to talk about their work, then generally collectors will not
either.
While it is true that you are buying the cue and not the cue maker, for many
collectors the two share the same value. Fact is, you will be more
willing to give your money to someone you feel comfortable with and who treats you
fairly. Because the custom cue community is so close, a cue maker’s
reputation can either enhance or decrease their cue’s desirability. I know a
few collectors that admire a cue maker’s work but will not purchase their cues
because of ethic issues related to customers.
I have been working with cue makers now for over 25 years and have found most
of them to be honorable and sincere men and women who love making cues.
However, as in any profession there is always that 10%.
The following are some suggestions when working directly with the makers and
ordering a custom cue.
Communication: When ordering a custom cue directly from the maker, this is the
most important element. It is during this process that you will find out
which ideas are feasible for your custom cue. When talking with a cue
maker about your cue you may want to refer to Skill #1. Custom cue makers
want to make you the cue you want. This is why it is best to discuss
this, perhaps even do a drawing, as this will give you at least a two-dimensional
look. If possible, use concepts or components from cues that the cue
maker has previously created. This will give him/her a guideline in which
to start. I have only ordered a couple cues, that because of lack of
communication, the cue did not turn out as I had hoped.
Ordering a cue under most circumstances is a simple matter. You see the cue
maker at the show or tournament and you place an order for a standard
model. You request particular materials and a certain wrap. The cue
maker then quotes you a delivery time and at this point, you either choose to
order the cue or not. You agree to the price and delivery time, shake hands and
walk away already anticipating your new cue. All in all, this process seems
simple.
I recommend you consider these ideas when ordering a cue:
First and foremost, both the cue maker and the client need to understand exactly
what has been ordered. Next, understand that the delivery time is an
estimate. This is the cue maker’s best guess based on their current load
of orders, shows and personal commitments. This may be the biggest
downside to working with a custom cue maker. For there can be numerous
reasons why the cue maker cannot meet the agreed upon date. If something
happens to the cue maker, anything from illness, loss of staff or material
shortage, this will postpone the delivery time. There are times when
machines break, which cause delays. Remember when a cue maker says
delivery in September that does not mean September 1st. More
than likely, it will be closer to the end of September. Understandably,
many cue makers are hesitant about quoting delivery times past 8 or 9 months
for fear of not getting the order. Some will mislead you and give you a
delivery time that will seem more appealing to you. This tactic is not
fair to either party, especially in the long term. Some cue makers lose
sight of the fact that, like many of the collectors, must work on a budget, as
well. If this is the case for you, explain that to the maker. Ask the
maker for the real delivery time.
For a cue maker to not meet his delivery time, in the long run influences their
sales. A collector who was given a less than honest delivery time may
never buy another cue from that cue maker. In addition, the bad word of mouth
advertising that the cue maker will receive could perhaps cost the cue maker
future orders and affect their position in the market.
Deposits:
This topic is one that gets people into discussion. Deposits can be a
procedure that a cue maker follows as business practice. By receiving a deposit,
the cue maker understands that you are serious about the cue. Others may not
require a deposit. I have known cue makers to take an order without a deposit
and when the customer is notified that the cue is ready, the customer will come
up with several reasons why they may not want the cue.
Legitimate reasons for deposits:
The cue you are ordering requires special materials, additional labor or
equipment.
The cue you want built has specific requirements that if you were not going to
take this cue, the cue maker would have great difficulty in selling it.
You prefer to give a deposit as good faith which will help offset the final
cost.
Deposits are interesting. First, a deposit for work to be completed in
many states is a legally binding contract. Both the cue maker and the
collector may wish to enter into this to ensure the other lives up to their
part of the deal.
If the cue maker does not produce the cue in the agreed upon time a complaint
can be made to any and all professional cue maker associations that the cue
maker is a member. Generally, this will require a written letter
outlining your complaint. Be sure to include all copies of cancelled checks
and the receipt. The letter should be sent to the current president of
the organization or whoever the contact would be for the ethics
committee. Each organization may have written policies on how complaints
are handled. Do not expect overnight results. Both sides of the issue
will have to be evaluated.
Should ordering a cue turn into a legal matter, having a receipt with a record
of the cue you ordered, anticipated delivery time, total price, deposit paid
and balance due will be key evidence in court. This I’m sure both parties would
like to avoid.
Deposits do, of course, have a downside for both the cue maker and
collector. By the maker accepting a deposit, they have implied permission
for that collector to call them any time to check on the status of their
cue. A word to collectors here, if the cue maker says the cue will be
ready in 5 months, don’t call them in 3 weeks and ask if your cue is
ready. However, there is nothing wrong with calling a month ahead of time
to see if the cue will be ready as promised.
Unfortunately, it is a fact that some deposits are taken and the cue is never
finished. Some cue makers require a 50% deposit or even a 100%
deposit. NEVER GIVE A 50% OR MORE DEPOSIT. The custom cue business
has peaks and valleys even for the best cue makers. It is easy for a maker to
live on 100% of their salary. However, it is almost impossible to live on
50% of your salary. Consequently, what happens is in order to make up for
the missing 50% the maker will finish the cue. While it is true that you
will be paying 100% at the time of delivery, 50% of that money has been
previously spent. In the mind of the cue maker, they have less incentive
to make your cue. Imagine what the incentive for these cue makers would
be if you had paid them in full?
Please understand I am speaking of very few cue makers. If a cue maker
asks for a big deposit, you may want to check with any professional organizations
they belong to and see if any complaints have been filed against them.
You can then do the same with the local Better Business Bureau in the cue maker’s
town. Every state has a consumer protection department. Sometimes
this can be accomplished by conducting an on-line search.
Fortunately, the large majority of cue makers are honorable individuals who
want to do what they love and make you the very best cue possible. By
establishing good communications to start with, there will be less confusion.
Both cue maker and collector will put themselves in a position to enjoy a long
and rewarding relationship.
Custom cue dealers have to develop a unique skill set. Unlike cue makers
who, for the most part, only have to be concerned with their cues, custom cue
dealers must be familiar with hundreds of cue maker’s cues.
Through sheer repetition and with the help of Brad Simpson’s Blue Book of Cues,
custom cue dealers are familiar with more custom cues and their makers than any
collector could hope to be. If you were to accompany me at a show or
tournament, (after a couple days of answering questions about the fifty or more
cues on the table), you would have those cues committed to memory. Now,
imagine doing it for 20 years.
This is what gives the custom cue dealer the advantage. This is what the
custom cue market is truly about. The better-known custom cue dealers
will buy and sell more custom cues in a year than most collectors will own in
their lifetime. This should not be news to anyone. If it were your
profession or obsession to buy and sell custom cues on a daily basis, developing
a sense of who’s who in the custom cue market would be inevitable.
As with custom cue makers, the explosion of the custom cue market has begun to
recognize the well-known dealers as experts in a particular market. The
interesting thing about this expertise is that for many of the dealers it
follows the trends.
Generally, the dealers who are known as experts have gained this reputation due,
in no small measure, to longevity. Most of the nationally recognized
dealers have been around for years.
As with cue makers, many of the dealers are very versatile. Because of
their knowledge of the entire cue market, some can move from specialty to specialty
and still maintain their position in several markets.
Dealers provide custom cue buyers with information that no one else can.
Possibly the biggest advantage is the variety of cues and cue makers they
feature on their table or website. Particularly at a show or tournament,
this gives the custom cue buyer an incredible knowledge base to reference.
Where else can you compare, side by side, the work of 5-15 cue maker’s work and
style?
Cue dealers can also do something for you that most cue makers will not and
some will argue should not. Answer questions as to who is the best.
By asking a cue maker this question, it is a lose-lose situation at best.
If they tell you they are, they can come across as arrogant or conceited.
If they tell you someone else is better, then there is a chance you will leave
their table, in search for the other makers table.
Why do collectors buy from a custom cue dealer? For some collectors the
reason is as simple as the dealer has the cue their looking for and the cue
maker does not.
Many collectors have found that by developing a long-term relationship with a
cue dealer, that they can get cues they want with a minimal investment in
time. Many collectors just do not have the time to attend every major
show, search the Internet and talk with other collectors around the world.
Additionally, should the collector need it, custom cue dealers are usually a
good source for information. They can provide guidance for your
collection. They can also compare and contrast both a cue maker’s work
and their position in the market for the type of cue you are considering.
Other criteria you may want to
consider:
Prices: Are the prices of the cue dealer competitive with that of the cue
maker? Paying an inflated price to the cue dealer for any cue is almost a
guarantee that you will never get your money back out of that cue. There
are exceptions to this rule. Cue maker’s cues that are in great demand
will cost you more than the maker’s price. This is usually because of the
difficulty in obtaining these cues.
Trade in Policy:
Does the cue dealer offer a trade in policy? If so, what are the
terms of the policy? If the cue dealer does not have one, you should ask
why. If the cue dealer is only willing to allow you a percentage of what
you paid for a cue, you should also ask, why? Well, there are legitimate
reasons. How well has the cue been taken of, overall condition, cost to repair
imperfections or total recondition, all of which will require time which in
turn equals money. If the dealer will only allow you a percentage in value,
they either do not want that cue back or they do not believe in the cue makers
they represent.
Getting answers to these questions will be beneficial to you. It will give
you insight into both the cue maker’s cues you are thinking about buying and
the dealer who is selling them. Trade in polices should be a positive experience
for both the dealer and the collector.
Position in the Market:
The same concept for cue makers applies to dealers, as well. They
should advertise, have a web site, attend shows, tournaments and have a booth
at the show or tournament. Just like cue makers, cue dealers can have
their own position in a market influenced by the billiard magazines. When
stories are done on particular cues, often time’s dealers are sought out for
their opinions. Cue dealers also provide information to the press in other
ways. This could include the projects they may be involved in lead to
articles and in some cases the cover of a billiard magazine. Some cue
dealers are asked to judge at shows, tournaments or, on occasions, to conduct
or be part of a group that conducts a seminar at shows.
If you are working with a cue dealer, it is important that they offer these
basic services (listed below in Relationships with custom cue makers) in
regards to their connections with cue makers. This will put them in a
position to purchase cues that you need for your collection. This is
especially true if your collection includes cue makers with extremely long
waiting times.
Relationships with custom cue makers:
A cue dealer’s ability to form long-term relationships with cue makers is
important to all. For cue makers, cue dealers can offer another form of
advertising, especially if the dealer attends shows that the cue maker
cannot. A cue dealer can introduce a cue makers cue to collectors that
may not be able to physically handle the cue before purchasing. If you
collect that cue makers work this benefits you, should you decide to sell or
trade a cue from that maker.
Another aspect of these relationships is that a cue dealer may receive a cue
earlier than if you ordered it from the cue maker directly. Because of
their long-standing order with the cue maker, they can get the cue you want
sometimes weeks earlier.
Finally, it is the long-term relationships that many times can result in a unique
cue opportunity. This cue, because of its rarity can become one of the
most sought after cues they ever craft.
Even if you never buy a custom cue from a dealer, I would highly recommend
spending time talking to them at a show or tournament.
Thirty years of selling custom cues will allow you to observe many
changes. It has taught me how to identify with some degree of success
which cue makers will stay around long enough to become well-known.
Tips:
Buy what you like, but consider some of the things I have presented to you.
When attending a cue show or tournament bring a pen and a pad of paper,
especially at the larger shows. You will lose track of the cue maker’s
booth and the specific cues that were in those booths. By writing down
the who, what, where, why and when you see a cue of interest you will save
valuable time. You would be amazed at the number of people I see at shows and
tournaments who walk around with a confused look on their face, as they cannot
remember where they saw the cue they wanted.
Remember, quality always sells or, more importantly, resells.
Price tags on cues. Ever wonder why some cues are priced and others are
not? One school of thought is that by not pricing the cue it will create
interest and force the individual to ask, how much this is thus starting a
conversation with the potential customer. This is an excellent sales strategy
and would explain the lack of clear pricing. However, another reason for no
price tags is profiling. They are looking at your mannerisms, dress and
the questions you ask. They compile this information and try to determine
how much you will pay for the cue.
Do not become part of that game. I got cured of that game when I asked a
cue maker several years ago at a show, how much is this cue? His response
was you can’t afford it. Even though I had the cash in my pocket I let
him feel he was 100% correct. The conversation progressed no further and
I spent my money elsewhere.
Suggestions:
If you are having difficulty with a cue maker on a custom cue order, do
everything you can to resolve the problem between yourselves. During this
time, keep track of every phone call and email. Make notes of what was
said by both parties. This will help you develop a time line of events.
If this fails, your next step should be to write a letter to the president of
the cue organization from which they are member. Do not get wordy.
State the facts and include a copy of any receipts, cancelled checks, copies of
email messages and your time line of events. Let the facts speak for
themselves.
At this point, the organization
has guidelines as to how to handle it.
Always send any correspondence of this nature via certified or registered mail.
When cue makers attend shows and tournaments, many will work long hours to
finish that last cue. If you are interested in a particular cue, ask the
cue maker when they finished it. If their response is, I finished this
cue last night, make sure you give that cue a good inspection.
Haggling is a talent all of its own. This is the right of every consumer in the
world. Haggling goes on all the time at shows and tournaments. In
most cases there are only three reasons that a cue maker or cue dealer will
reduce the price.
1)The cue
is over-priced to begin with.
2)The cue
is a slow seller.
3)They need
the money.
I recommend to every cue maker I work with to never haggle. Clients will
tell the world how they got a great deal from them. It is important for
collectors to know which cue makers will reduce their prices and which will
not. If you pay full price for the cue and someone else gets 10% off, how
much is your cue now worth? Well, it is safe to say, not what you paid
for it.
My suggestion to you is that before you start the haggling processes ask
yourself, do you really want a cue in your collection that the cue maker or cue
dealer did not believe in enough to only accept full price? I have seen some
cue dealers reduce the price of cues 25 % to 30%. What does this tell you? How
would you like it if you paid full price only to find that it is now worth much
less? This was not a good investment. The cue maker in this case will not be
pleased to find that a cue dealer maybe even at the same show or tournament is
selling his cues for much less. I’m sure this cue maker would address this
issue with the cue dealer and possibly not provide this cue dealer with cues in
the future.
Honesty is a very important thing when it comes to custom cues. This is especially
true when being asked for your opinion on a custom cue. Not every cue,
every cue maker produces is going to be incredible.
The best thing you can give a cue maker, other than money, is constructive
criticism. Many times tired eyes can miss small flaws. By pointing
out these flaws in a positive way, you are helping the cue maker take the first
step to eliminating this mistake in the future.
When you are at a cue show or tournament, be polite and respect what the cue
maker has tried to create. Ask permission to handle a cue. If there is a
crowd at the booth, be patient and wait your turn. Some cue makers and cue
dealers are now using locking cue displays so you will have to ask if you can
see a cue. Be careful handling the cue and try to put the cue back in the
position and location from which you removed it from the rack.
Remember, at one time even the most sought-after cue makers were unknown.
As a collector, one of your goals should be to find the next legend, preferably
before they become one.
Most important is to always remember.
BUY WHAT YOU LIKE AND ENJOY YOUR CUSTOM CUE
COLLECTION!